That's a GREAT point about parole making it cheap to make something criminal.  I never 
thought of it that way before!

That being said, in a Libertarian society, I'd not mind parole, so long as the person 
voluntarily signed away the rights that were being disposed of in favor of physical 
freedom.  In a Libertarian society though, you'd see a DAMNED lot fewer things that 
are illegal.

Subbie


I'm curious what types of felonies you've committed.  If they're nothing more than 
drug use and the like, I don't care.

: At 2:39 PM -0700 7/4/01, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
: >Inchoate wrote:
: >
: >>  'routine search'? Remind me never
: >>  to go to Ohio.
: >
: >It's every state of the Union.  Parolees are still prisoners.  Just as you
: >can search a prisoner's cell, a parole officer can search a parolee's house.
: 
: The entire parole process is itself an open sore on our justice system. It's turned 
:into a control system, a "force magnfication" scheme. Instead of actually having to 
:_jail_ all of the people, they release them early, take away their key Bill of Rights 
:protections (2nd, 4th, etc., including the vote) and have them as virtual slaves of 
:the system.
: 
:  From an economic/libertarian point of view, what this has done is to alter the 
:costs of making things criminal. Standard economic theory: making more people 
:criminals doesn't cost much, and makes them more malleable. As so many people have 
:said so pithily, "At the rate they're going, we'll _all_ be felons." And felons don't 
:need no steenking constitutional rights.
: 
: Were Orwell writing today, he'd probably replace his "proles" with "parolees." And 
:the cameras in each room would merely be part of the parole process.
: 
: One of the biggest concerns Keith Henson had in his probable 6-month sentence in his 
:case (which is another issue) is that he was likely to receive a 5-year probation 
:term, during which his house could (and likely would) be entered at any time, day or 
:night, and during which period his private files and records would be scrutinized for 
:any thoughtcrimes which could be used to send him back for a longer period. (Which 
:happened with both Bell and Parker.)
: 
: As a felon myself, and one who committed a dozen or so felonies each carrying 3-year 
:terms just last week, I realize how the entire probation/parole process is what Big 
:Brother really likes the most about our so-called justice system.
: 
: --Tim May
: 
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