On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Tim May wrote:
> At 6:26 PM -0400 8/24/00, Matt Elliott wrote:
> > >Never let the Jesus freaks define what rights are.
> >
> >Why? Is there something inherent in believing in Christ Jesus, that makes
> >one incapable of rational thought on the issue of rights?
>
> I never said they can't contribute to the debate, or, more
> importantly, accept the Constitution. My comment was in the context
> of whether we even _need_ a BOR, given the fact (according to Xtians)
> that rights come from God.
>
> Though the founding documents make nebulous references to some God or
> Supreme Fascist or Whatever, none of the particulars of the C or BOR
> come from any religious scripture.
>
I believe the phrase was "nature and nature's god". These are
very specific phrases that invoke the whole system of "natural
law" that was popular with the Deists (of which Jefferson and
Franklin were members).
If memory serves (and sometimes, frankly, it doesn't).
jim