At 11:10 PM -0400 6/8/00, David Honig wrote:
>At 07:21 PM 6/8/00 -0400, Tim May wrote:
>>Every state/jurisdiction has its thoughtcrimes...child porn,
>>anti-Islamic literature, Nazi memorabilia and screeds, snuff films,
>>money laundering, amphetamine recipes, libel, and so on. The list is
>>long.
>
>But crypto makes it all invisible. The only thing traffic analysis reveals
>is that you talk to S'land. Well shoot, your broker works virtually
>out of there, that's not enough to indict.
Don't be obtuse. If it's invisible/untraceable, then it hardly
matters if the servers are located on Sealand's platform. If, on the
other hand, Sealand is talking about accepting all items except those
which are illegal in the country of origin (??), then the presumption
is that at least _some_ of the data haven capabilities are not in
fact "invisible."
Further, there are no requirements stated that some kind of network
of Eternity/ZKS links are required to be used to access Sealand
sites. If so, then Sealand might have more plausible deniability.
I would replace "crypto makes it all invisible" with "it is likely
that crypto will someday make it all invisible." At which point there
will be no need for a bunch of racks of Sparcs and Pentiums to be
located on a salt-sprayed platform in the North Sea.
>
>>The United States bans many of these, regardless of the First
>>Amendment. (And the Supreme Court has of course upheld some of these
>>bans. Obscenity laws, for example. The upcoming ban on bomb
>>instructions, methamphetamine recipes, drug advocacy, pace Feinstein,
>>Hatch, et. al., have not yet been tested in the courts.)
>
>That's why Freenet et al were invented.. on the road to your Blacknet..
Actually, Blacknet was _deployed_, back in '93. By using ridiculously
easy approaches, albeit with a long lagtime, it was trivial to deploy.
And as I said above, with true data havens implemented in software
and with strong crypto, there simply is no need to locate in the
North Sea. The only rationale for locating in a nominally (and
temporarily?) "autonomous zone" is to avoid battles with those who
have located your position. The Muslims implementing a fatwah, for
example. Or the French SDECE placing mines on a platform.
>
>
>People are so concrete..
Those who live in concrete houses...
--Tim May
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