At 08:02 PM 24/04/00 -0400, Tim May wrote:
>At 6:56 PM -0400 4/24/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>No matter what your position is, there are three points about which we
>>should all be concerned. However, since we have all grown so stupid and
>>comfortable, I doubt any of you will have the balls to say "Enough is
>>enough".
>
>You need to check some of your facts.

Go on,,,

>I'll be brief:

ditto,

>>1) Saturday afternoon, a US Senator attempted to enter a US Military base
>>and was refused at the gate. The guards told him that they had their orders
>>from Janet Reno not to let him pass.
>
>Military bases--and ships, labs, submarines, etc.--have security 
>systems in place which the Legislative Branch of Government has no 
>special right to trump by merely showing up. If this is surprising to 
>you, you have a lot of learning to do.

Very true, however:  Since when does the .mil take such direction from the
appointed head of the Just Us Dept?   Here's a fucking hint Tim, that
office/holder isn't in the official chain of command.  She had no authority
to direct gate guards to prevent anyone, especially a Senator, from
entering the base.

>>2) This was the first time in US history that such a raid has been conducted
>>on a private residence without any type of court order, warrant, etc.,
>>whatsoever.
>
>There was a search warrant, issued Friday night.

Sure there was.  The check is in the mail, too.

>In any case, hardly the first time an unwarranted raid has happened. 
>But this one had a warrant, so you're doubly wrong.

No, not the first time, but maybe high-profile enough get some backlash and
put some hurt on those who thumb their nose at Amendment IV.

>>3) Even though the TV news has repeatedly told you otherwise, the Miami
>>relatives have not broken any laws whatsoever. There is no law written
>>anywhere on any books in which they were in violation. Janet Reno ordered
>>them to pack up the kid and drive him to an airport. When they did not,
>>Reno
>>declared them criminals. The problem is that Janet Reno does not have the
>>authority to create laws. Only Congess does. She seems to feel that any
>>order she gives is law.
>
>Better check that warrant point again.

You first.

>The Justice Department and its branches (INS, Marshals, etc.) 
>_enforce_ laws. Granted, they don't make them. 

Remember this.

>Returning a 6-year-old 
>boy to his natural father does not require an Act of Congress: it is 
>done routinely in thousands of similar cases each year.

The key factor you overlook is Elian's application for asylum.  You keep
saying the father has a right to custody, but we already know that upon
return to Cuba, he won't have custody.  Elian will live in Havana, in a
house with 12 of his classmates who were kidnapped from their parents, as a
Hero of the Revolution.  How Precious.

>The kidnappers of Elian G. should now face kidnapping charges for the 
>several weeks they held him after being told he was not theirs to 
>hold.

According to the 11th circuit, ruling issued last Wednesday, he was fine
where he was, there was no direction to remand him to the custody of the
father.

You sure are turning into a communist sympathizer lately Tim.

Reese


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