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From: Tom Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The whole world is largely socialist, not only Europe, it's just that
the
> > percentage is larger in Europe than in the US. OTOH, Japan is probably
even
> > more socialist. And if we start adding China... [Reese, don't make the
> > mistake of believing that only the government is socialist; most people
> > are - even those claiming to be capitalists will tell you that the state
> > must do this and that.]
>
> you must have a pretty... "unusual" ... definition of "socialist". care
> to share it with me? at the moment you sound like a frightened child
> that claims "the whole world is evil".
Socialism: the (advocacy of) intervention of the state in voluntary
transactions. In extenso, whenever there is a state, or advocacy of a state,
there is socialism, for the state cannot exist without interfering with
voluntary transactions (otherwise, it would only be a company).
The world per se cannot be evil; evil only has meaning wrt persons. Yes, all
people are evil.
> as I said before, it's even more interesting to see most political views
> cram all OTHER views into one. nazis believe everyone else is a
> communist, left-wings say everyone else is a nazi or at least close, and
> now I learn that (whatever-you-are) say that left and right are the
> same. interesting. :)
The fact that various forms of socialists don't know squat about economics
and politics is of no relevance to the argument. Both those on the left and
on the right advocate state intervention in human affairs.
Mark