I am currently participating in specifications working groups focused on next-generation digital mobile telephony. Cypherpunks will find some of the new features coming to a mobile phone near you interesting: the subscriber's telephony provider will be able to initiate outbound calls via a request over SMS and even will be able to access the user's phone directory without user approval or notification. Nobody at this meeting that I could identify appears to be concerned in the slightest about the security implications of this "feature". Their sole concern appears to be that the provider still gets paid for such non-user initiated calls. Amazing... --Lucky Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>