I'm posting this on-list to make sure Shawn sees my reply. I replied to 
him directly but I don't know if the heliohost.us --> rushpost.com path works. 

        As another datapoint, last week part(I think) of heliohost.us got 
banned by google, and  if I send a message to gmail.com I do get a 'message 
can't be delivered' bla bla reply. I was also told that the bans eventually 
clear, though I  have my doubts. 



On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:33:54 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 5/20/21 21:20, juan wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     I sent a message from  [email protected] to [email protected] (which I 
> > believe goes through gmail) and another message to karl and apparently they 
> > didn't get them which leads me to believe that cock.li messages are now 
> > being discarded by google/sent to gmail's spam folder or something?


> 
> Gmail to cock.li (firemail.cc) works for me. Cock.li to Gmail hasn't
> gone through yet after several minutes (nothing in spam folder).


        hotmail shows the same behaviour. Hotmail to cock.li works. Cock.li to 
hotmail messages are silently discarded. 


> 
> If this is intentional on the part of Google, it's absolutely despicable.


        kinda looks like there is one 'shared' blocking list and it's being 
used by pg's spam filter, it's being used by google, and...the rest of the 
arpanet prolly. 



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