Been catching up on some bucket list "unread" emails, and Steve, this below email of yours is a real knockout - so many thought seeds, I'm reminded why I kept it it "unread" state since you posted it 3 years ago.
Thank you. It's evident you really put some intention here and there on communicating as clearly as you can, and that, IMEHO is a valuable exercise/ contribution to grind mill of experience. I note you refer below to "E-Prime" variant of English. Are you familiar with this at all? If so, tl;dr ? On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:42:01AM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 09/07/2016 02:50 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 09:07:25PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > > >> A new Hilaritas Press print edition of RAW's Quantum Psychology > >> just > > > > Wikipedia has an article about "Quantum Mind", basically claiming > > that the mind heavily depends on quantum stuff. Pretty sure medical > > students don't study this. > > > > Are the theories about quantum mind taken seriously? > > Not by me. To grossly oversimplify: > > 1) Quantum physics is spooky and inexplicable. > 2) Consciousness is spooky and inexplicable. > 3) Therefore, quantum physics explains consciousness. > > Maybe. But the missing link is evidence. Or even a clearly > articulated model that can tell us where to look for evidence. > > People who just "have to" explain everything in terms of concrete and > familiar concepts have been known to assert that consciousness does > not exist. Maybe they are right in a limited set of cases: The > Gnostics maintained that most humans are born without souls. The > Taoists and Sufis posit that the soul is a latent potential that > remains dormant unless developed through self observation, and may be > extinguished by the weight of neurotic compulsive attachments to > "materialistic" motives and activities. By "soul" I think they mean > consciousness exhibiting the ability to directly modify thought or > behavior, and/or perceive something other than the activity of the > nervous system, but that's a shot in the dark on my part. > > Two questions at the opposite ends of scale sit there like bookends on > the library of human knowledge: What is consciousness made of? What > contains the Universe and enforces the laws of physics? > > Again, those who simply "must know everything" assert that these are > meaningless questions and/or that there is "nothing there at all." The > scientific method addresses "how" but not "why" questions and to them, > if it's not science it's not real. > > Those with a more experiential / subjective frame of reference often > arrive at the conclusion that consciousness and existence are > manifestation of the same thing. Philosophers who tend toward > rigorous argument assert that by definition consciousness and > existence are the same thing for all practical purpose, and that this > tells us almost nothing except to define the limits on what /can/ be > known by human beings. > > In Quantum Psychology, Wilson provides a guided tour of a lot of this > landscape and presents some practical tools, like the E-Prime variant > of English, for correcting some of the problems that arise from > believing that we know things we can not know, and behaving accordingly. > > > A news headline like "5 yro savant boy from Uganda breaks root cert > > in his head for 42 kilograms of western chocolate" will make my day > > ;) > > If he does, he will probably use a crystal ball, or dance until he > drops while tripping balls on the best available local psychedelic. > We have ways of getting at content that is "off limits" to normal > waking consciousness. But he probably won't get the desired result > because in these matters, the process very notoriously has its own > agenda. By way of analogy, one does not interrupt a paramedics > working at a disaster site with a request that she solve a crossword > puzzle. You can try but she will ignore you or, if you continue > pestering her, kick your ass. > > :o) > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJX0AsZAAoJEECU6c5Xzmuq+HYIAJ1TUlPaQij1lnudBWzNawjS > fPar0Pzv1gqttYtdXMIwxAaqHsHJ90LORcWas7SJXTV+GBLEeitEIHREy8+Ez+hC > 144VgaJw8ZozLLBaDdXVccS1vZU7QhicFklqM8ULQOTYZSRB56dITCrQ6+o6K7Vn > E8Gk0shMCupgGEzBDO0W6YeO0QGZVyDD7ZsR1Mb6ibbk4k1CANdxel42ulDuWdfi > xBGDw0oqPzIILB+tRi49xb42i88h2LgMxXUPqX8MvX1DTnp2i+TccprK27luTAxo > ggXayJOhshFkLoRi+GCCPet26MxD8cvvd48jv7EAMB7G6RnQil5S5BT7RPg29Ik= > =Jcfg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
