On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 12:09:24AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, David Christensen wrote: > >> Thank you all for your comments. I have tried to respond to each person >> who replied, but may have omitted those where their topic is already >> covered below. >> [snip] >> >> Dave Korn wrote: >> > http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PCYMTNQREAIYR >> >> Is there a way to do it on MS Outlook 2003 SP1, other than manually >> deleting e-mail addresses? > >Searching the mailing list for the above acronym will bring up a bunch of >threads with the discussion on how to do this in various mailers. In >particular, they will mention the QuoteFix plugin for MS Outlook. A >Google search for "Outlook 2003 QuoteFix" returns some pages that seem to >indicate that QuoteFix is now compatible with Outlook 2003. All of the >above could have been done by anyone with the knowledge that this mailing >list is archived. > Igor >P.S. You're not doing anyone a favor by bunching up replies to various >messages into one message -- for one, it breaks threading. Please don't >do that.
I had a long (and probably mean) response to this message that Igor responded to but I think Igor's above advice illustrates the basic problem here. David, you expressed that you don't know anything about cygwin works, how our current release process works, who runs the project, or how maintainers do their job. You seem to be under the impression that, for example, the rsync maintainer spends a lot of time on rsync development. You also didn't appear to know how to use setup.exe to downgrade your rsync when you had a problem. None of the above is a punishable offense but these facts do make it hard to take your arguments seriously. On top of that, your response contained cliches and generalities. For example, your answer to the question "How do you get people to volunteer" was "You make them want to volunteer". With answers like that we'll be here a long time. Most of us (all of us who are responsible for cygwin) are technical here. Technical people are more likely to be swayed by details than rhetoric or homilies. Remember, that the people "in charge" are already technical professionals and most of us are quite familiar with what goes into making a stable release. If we weren't then it has been adequately explained by various notables here. What you need to provide now is a a rationale for how you are going to pull people into the fold and an idea of how you are proposing it will all work. I think you need to do some research and present a formal plan. And, in your plan, please try to avoid cliches like "the customer is always right". There are no customers here (see the previously mentioned URL) and, as cliches go, that one is so obviously false that it doesn't really bear repeating. If you think that there is a way to get people to want to volunteer, then spell it out. As I said (and as I said a year ago), I'm willing to provide resources on the site that hosts cygwin.com but I'm not going to waste time setting things up until it is obvious that there is something solid behind this effort. It sure doesn't look like there is anything remotely solid now and given the email traffic so far, I can't even see how you can get there from here. -- Christopher Faylor spammer? -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cygwin Co-Project Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] TimeSys, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
