At 08:16 PM 10/10/2003, Edward Peschko you wrote: >hey, > >I've been playing around with mingw and cygwin, and was wondering why these were >separate >projects? I've been trying to get a unix API moved over to windows; I want a Unix >environment, but at the same time want to be able to make Win32 native binaries, >*without* the need of the cygwin dlls. > >So - I've been trying various things: > > 1) cygwin > 2) mingw > 3) uwin > 4) mks toolkit > >all of which are unsatisfactory in some way or another. #3 and #4 in particular are >proprietary; and #3 and #4 both have less support in gnu tools than I care for. #3 >looks >nice, but furthermore doesn't seem to be supported in at&t anymore.. > >However, #1 and #2 are a puzzle: why are they two separate projects? Its terribly >confusing; both have the same executable files created (ln and rm, for example) so >its hard to use one with the other; and its got to be a maintenance nightmare to >support separate patches for mingw and separate patches for cygwin. > >So - why aren't the two merged? Why isn't there a 'mingw' mode for cygwin, where >the ability to use the cygwin*.dll is turned off,
What would be the point? >and mingw executables can be compiled >under cygwin tools? There can. Use the '-mno-cygwin' flag for gcc and install the gcc-mingw package. >And where constructs like using shortcuts for symlinks are turned >off, to make projects more win32 friendly... Ditto. See the "nowinsymlinks" option for the CYGWIN environment variable at <http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html>. I'm not sure how turning this off makes Cygwin more Win32 friendly though. Seems to me I remember the argument for the "winsymlinks" implementation being made in the context of being more Win32 friendly. >I'd think that this would be easier in the long run. If the two projects were merged.. >But then again, who am I to make such a decision.. ;-) They already work well together. Of course, <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC> if you think there's something else that could be done to make this better. Cygwin and Mingw are both open-source projects. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
