On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 05:17, Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail) wrote: > Hannu said: > <NOTE smiley> > > > Are you implying that setup isn't that well coded? ;-) > > > I have yet to look at the code. > > > > Robert Collins said: > > Please do, before you redesign from scratch. > > Ehrm? Is this to be ironic or some such? :-}
Slightly humorous observation of the seeming automatic response of folk joining missing functionality threads. > > Setup is not factored out into a solid MVC or equivalent framework > > today, and we are slowly working towards that. > > MVC - Model, View, Controller - VEYR NICE. THANK YOU!! > This very moment you put a name onto something that I have been > contemplating all alone 'on my chamber'. My B.Sc. classes did NOT cover this > kind of stuff (e.g. GUI creation) - not very strange really as they were > more hardware oriented. Yes, MVC is nice - and I wish we where there. As it stands we are in transition, just cleaning up things as we go. The long term goal is a console mode setup, and a gui setup, with the same core. > Do you (anybody else?) mind elaborating this a bit, maybe better off list? > My peculiar email address DOES work, just send away, I'll be eagerly > listening/reading. Well, if MVC was new and interesting, can I suggest you obtain (from your Uni library perhaps) the Gang of four book "Design Patterns". It's a library of software design idioms (of which MVC is just one). > e.g. I wonder about: > - Are you using some specific tool for setup? vim :}. (Well eclipse a little, but mainly vim). > - If not, please give me some hints(pointers) on how you do it. > - Are there free/GPL/LGPL/BSD tools to do this? yes - there are some wikis on OO development that have a huge amount of links and the like. > - Names of commercial software? > - There seems to be a stale project on sf.net (xmtpp below, 10KB file), > do you know anything about it? > (Registered: 2000-10-30 05:27, last file date Nov 6, 2000) nope. > - j-struts/MVC 2 seems to be a web/java adaption... good reading? I've heard good things about struts. Really though, MVC is a design approach. MVC frameworks are frameworks that use that approach - you can easily have MVC without such a framework. Rob -- GPG key available at: <http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt>.
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