On 2024-02-12 14:37, matthew patton via Cygwin wrote:
On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 02:44:16 PM EST, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote:
On 12/02/2024 01:05, wsnyder--- via Cygwin wrote:
I have a Windows Version 10.0.19044 Build 19044 system with Cygwin
installed a while ago.

Opening the cygwin terminal (which works fine), I see it is running:

CYGWIN_NT-10.0-19044 version 3.3.6-341.x86_64 (corinna@calimero) (gcc
version 11.2.0 20210728 (Fedora Cygwin 11.2.0-2) (GCC) ) 2022-09-05
11:15 UTC

I needed to install some packages so downloaded setup-x86_64.exe onto
my desktop. When I run it from the desktop I get the "busy" cursor
for a fraction of a second and nothing happens.  When I open the
native Windows cmd prompt as administrator, and run
"setup-x86_64.exe" or "setup-x86_64.exe -v" or "setup-x86_64.exe
--asdjasdjaskdhj", I just get the prompt back.

If, however I startup the cygwin terminal (vs cmd window) and run
setup-x86_64.exe, it starts correctly.  However I'm afraid to run it
this way as if it crashes I'll presumably never be able to run setup
again.

This seems highly speculative.

This is a work machine so while I have admin, it's completely
possible they've added some broken virus checker rule that is now
preventing it from running. But, I get no alert, which I normally
would doing something unusual, and that it works under cygwin itself
seems odd.
This is very odd behaviour.

If you really suspect some AV problems, it may help to try the
uncompressed setup executable, available from [1]

Huh, when did this start?

Over 20 years ago - possibly since Cygwin Setup was originally released.

Nobody pays by BW anymore so what was the rationale behind a "self altering"
executable?

You may find if you go to a country where the government PTT provides all telecommunication, you are using a laptop over a mobile data connection, or roaming, or on board a ship or plane, you may still be paying a hefty price for BW e.g. 250mb (bytes?) for 25 euro, may be device, speed, or download limits, or extra charges for those, extra devices, per person, requesting it once on-board, or for activation fees.

No wonder it would experience havoc in an A/V environment since the extracted
temp file may well be located on a non-executable location and or EXEC would
have been shimmed by AV and it doesn't correctly return control from an
ephemeral location.
Never been an issue.

>> [1] https://cygwin.com/setup/

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