On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 at 17:19, Thomas Wolff <t...@towo.net> wrote:
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> [oops, used wrong Reply function]
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> Am 24.03.2025 um 21:58 schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
> > On Mar 24 21:42, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 24.03.2025 um 17:08 schrieb Jeffrey Altman:
> >>> On 3/24/2025 10:25 AM, Martin Wege via Cygwin wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> another wishlist entry (old one):
> >>>> read/write NTFS alternate data streams via openat(O_XATTR)
> >>>  From my perspective as a filesystem developer, Extended Attributes and
> >>> Alternate Data Streams are different concepts which I believe are
> >>> inappropriate to mix.
> >>>
> >>> Filesystems can implement one, the other, both or neither.
> >>>
> >>> An Extended Attribute is a name:value pair that can be attached to an
> >>> inode. The size of individual values and the sum of the value sizes
> >>> are often quite constrained because they are stored in the inode
> >>> metadata. Copying an inode is guaranteed to copy the Extended Attributes.
> >>>
> >>> Alternate Data Streams are typically represented as independent
> >>> inodes. The Alternate Data Stream namespace can be represented by a
> >>> directory inode referenced from the file inode. Each ADS inode might
> >>> have their own Extended Attributes to go along with the data stream.
> >>> ACLs on ADS inodes can also be independent of the ACL on the primary
> >>> inode depending upon the implementation.
> >>>
> >>> Therefore, I am reluctant to see openat(O_XATTR) be used to access
> >>> alternate data streams.
> >>>
> >>> Jeffrey Altman
> >> Why not use the Windows syntax?
> >> cat file.txt:ads.txt
> >> etc. (Was this discussed before?)
> >> Thomas
> > The colon is a valid filename character in Cygwin, it will be converted
> > to the UNICODE private use area:
> > https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-specialchars
> >
> > Therefore you can't use the colon to specify streams.
> >
> >
> > Corinna
> OK, so what about a slash? Handling the base file like a directory for
> access and listing...

ResierFS tried that, and Linus Torvalds personally crushed John Reiser for that.

bash has cd -@ dir and cd -@ file to go into a virtual O_XATTR dir,
UNIX has /bin/runat to do the same

Lionel

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