On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 08:50:19AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday 24 August 2007 07:22:12 pm Warner Losh wrote: > > What's the overhead of having the transition crutch around for a > > while? The benefit is that people are less likely to screw up their > > systems at a time when we want to encourage people to upgrade so they > > can test the latest/greatest version. If it were 9 months after > > RELENG_6 was branched, and a long time to a release, then I'd be much > > more inclined to agree with the 'current is hard, so why spend > > engineering effort on making it easy' crowd than I would now that more > > of the world is watching and using it since we're in the glide path to > > beta1. > > > > I don't see why we can't put the versioned symbols in, let everybody > > upgrade and then remove the old symbols after a big enough window has > > passed. It isn't like they are hurting anything by being there, is > > it? > > Then why didn't we bump libc multiple times in a branch? It's the same > exact thing except more fine-grained. If it's ok to bump symbol > versions multiple times (remember, we've already done 1 bump by adding > versioning and going to libc.so.7) in a branch, then it should have been > ok to bump libc major numbers multiple times. > > I agree with Dan that we are trying to build releases, and folks running > -current are expected to tolerate change during the current branch.
Folks running -current are also committers that use -current to test as much as they can, but also to use it for day-to-day work. Isn't it why we have perforce and other policies, so that -current can be stable and usable? If we have tools that can help -current users to use the system smoothly, I'm all for using them. I can't imagine taking yet another two days and reinstalling all ports, just because -current users are not important. Of course -current users know how to deal with things like this, but that doesn't mean they have to if there is another way. The more surprises like that one, the less -current users we will have, which means the less testing. If there will be a need for me to reinstall all the ports I'll choose not to upgrade or downgrade to 6.x... -- Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am!
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