At 12:32 PM +0400 8/19/06, Yar Tikhiy wrote:
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Brooks Davis wrote:
 > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Yar Tikhiy wrote:
 > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Brooks Davis wrote:
 > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Yar Tikhiy wrote:
 > > > | On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
 > > > | > In a commit msg, Yar Tikhiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > > > | > >   Log:
 > > > | > >   The ps(1) command is unfriendly to scripts by default
 > > > | > >   because it limits the width of its output to the value
 > > > | > >   of $COLUMNS, or what TIOCGWINSZ reports, or 79 columns.
 > > > | > >   We should specify -ww to ps(1) so that it removes the
 > > > | > >   limit and prints lines in full.  Otherwise very long
 > > > | > >   command pathnames could be mishandled, e.g.,
 > > > | > >   by _find_processes().
 > > > | >
 > > > | > or perhaps _find_processes() should use pgrep(1) instead
 > > > | > of ps(1).
 > > > |
 > > > | I considered that but had to stick to ps(1) because pgrep
 > > > | was in /usr/bin while ps was in /bin.  The use of /usr/bin
 > > > | tools should be very limited in rc.subr(8).  OTOH, pgrep
 > > > | uses /lib libs only, which makes it possible to transfer
 > > > | pgrep+pkill to /bin if we can stand the growth of / by
 > > > | some 50 kbytes.
 > > >
 > > > I think that's appropriate since pgrep is such an obvious
 > > > fit for this sort of thing.  I think we'll want to consider
 > > > compatability symlinks due to existing hardcoded paths in
 > > > scripts.


I do not mind if `pgrep' and `pkill' are moved to /bin.  Note
that these were added to /usr because that's where they exist
on NetBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris and Linux.  So we're not just
talking about hardcoded-paths in a few scripts that FreeBSD
users might have written for use only on FreeBSD.  So, I expect
we will want symlinks to remain in /usr, forever, if we move
the programs to /bin.

(Moving them does seem reasonable to me. I'm just saying why
they were put in /usr in the first place...)

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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;             Troy, NY;  USA
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