On 04/03/2011 13:49, Sahil Tandon wrote:
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 13:39:13 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:

On 4/2/2011 10:57 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
I share your rationale for the most part, but I am still unclear about
what some might call an 'edge' case.

It sounds to me like what you want are clear, bright lines that we
can form policy around. I wish you luck with that. :)

That is not what I want, but I do not fault you for jumping to that
reasonable conclusion.

Fair enough. Meanwhile it's almost always infinitely easier to get what you want if you ask for it. :)

Meanwhile, given the way that our ports and packages work bumping
PORTREVISION is a blunt tool, and has tradeoffs. IMO ports
committers need to have some firm guidelines for the common cases,
but also to use their discretion on the edges.

That is all fine and well, but given the nature of these issues, threads
similar to this one are unavoidable.

I think you're right about that. What I'm not sure about is whether you think that's a problem.

People will always have questions
about why in case X, a bump wasn't issued while it was in a strikingly
similar case Y.  And unless there is sufficient discussion of rationale
in the commit logs, I think that is OK.

I think it's Ok even if there IS adequate justification in the logs. :) We have an influx of new committers, and those who wish to be, so periodically re-visiting these topics is useful.

It is not about bright lines or
other metaphors, but rather just a desire to understand what motivated a
bump in one circumstance but not another.

So *now* it sounds like you're asking for better commit logs, which is something we definitely agree on. :) What I learned was that commit logs should be about 1/3 "what" (since you can get the full picture from the diff if needed) and 2/3 "why." Keeping in mind that the logs need to be understood years from now when we're all long gone is always a good thing too.


Doug

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