On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:05 AM Michael Gmelin <free...@grem.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm leaving this here, mostly so that others (or future me) can google
> it up.
>
> Traditionally, CTRL-t would give a one-line output + whatever the
> process specific signal handler comes up with:
>
>   # sleep 120 <--- hits CTRL-t
>   load: 0.27  cmd: sleep 38162 [nanslp] 0.64r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1780k
>   sleep: about 119 second(s) left out of the original 120
>
>   # cat <--- hits CTRL-t
>   load: 0.02  cmd: cat 24379 [ttyin] 0.63r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2308k
>
>
> On 13 I get:
>
>   # sleep 120 <--- hits CTRL-t
>   load: 0.12  cmd: sleep 3241 [nanslp] 0.52r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2172k
>   mi_switch+0xc1 sleepq_catch_signals+0x2e6 sleepq_timedwait_sig+0x12
>   _sleep+0x199 kern_clock_nanosleep+0x1e1 sys_nanosleep+0x3b
>   amd64_syscall+0x10c fast_syscall_common+0xf8 sleep: about 119
>   second(s) left out of the original 120
>
>   # cat <--- hits CTRL-t
>   load: 0.09  cmd: cat 3240 [ttyin] 0.23r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2300k
>   mi_switch+0xc1 sleepq_catch_signals+0x2e6 sleepq_wait_sig+0x9
>   _cv_wait_sig+0xe4 tty_wait+0x1c ttydisc_read+0x2ac ttydev_read+0x56
>   devfs_read_f+0xd5 dofileread+0x81 sys_read+0xbc amd64_syscall+0x10c
>   fast_syscall_common+0xf8
>
> which is quite way too verbose when checking the progress of
> long-running processes, like cp, dd, or poudriere. Especially as CTRL-t
> is part of the user experience to me - I use it to interact with the
> machine outside of debugging software issues.
>
> Setting
>
>   sysctl kern.tty_info_kstacks=0
>   echo kern.tty_info_kstacks=0 >>/etc/sysctl.conf
>
> fixes this permanently.
>
> Apparently, this was enabled by default on purpose[0], so that people
> find the feature (which certainly worked ^_^), but I think it would
> been worth mentioning the sysctl somewhere in the release notes/errata,
> so that people understand how to disable it again.
>
> Best
> Michael
>
> [0]
> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/sys/kern/tty_info.c?h=releng/13.0&id=508a6e84e785f642545b81c3ecb325685a2e56a7
>
> --
> Michael Gmelin
>

I tend to agree.  I'm already using to using procstat to see a stuck
process's stacks, so I don't need to see them during ctrl-T, too.
-Alan

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