Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Alan Gresley wrote: > > > http://annevankesteren.nl/2008/03/ie8-bad#comment-6499 > > > > All I want is a stand alone IE8 in super duper standard mode. We now > > have to support: > > > > 1. The real IE5 (optional) 2. The real IE6 3. The real IE7 > > > > and one of the following. > > > > 4a. IE8 Standard mode 4b. IE7 Strict mode 4c. IE6 Mystery mode > > The above may create problems for other browser-makers, unless they do > as they've said they'll do - ignore the whole version targeting issue > and improve standard-support while keeping _one_ Quirks mode for limited > backward-compatibility. "Ignoring it" sounds like the most, if not only, > sane approach.
Yes I agree, unless your in some dire need to have IE8 in any other mode just feed IE8 your normal style sheet. Just ignore the whole Meta Mode approach all together. The more web developers who code for the standards, the more the web will move in the right direction -> forwards. > For us designers it's a matter of choice, and I personally will only > have to support: > > 1: IE5.x (ever so slightly, or a bit more if I get well paid for it). > 2: IE6 (Quirks mode forever, which secures 99% support of IE5 without > additional efforts). > 3: IE7 Standard mode (or whatever they call it). > 4: IE8-final Standard (no meta) mode. > > The above doesn't affect my present strategy at all, and IE8 won't add > all that much more work than any other version-upgrade of any browser. > Either I've been very lucky, or I've just chosen a good strategy to > begin with. Either way - it'll work. This made me think about your site. I know my main site has a mysterious gap present and my test pages are really broken in IE8. I though I would see how your code coped. I expected it to cope well. Well I was in for one big surprise as I only had to open your home page (175kb download). http://css-class.com/images/gunlang.png You wouldn't have used display:table any where perhaps? I approach coding for the various IE versions the same as you. Sending IE6 into quirks mode help with IE5. Then there IE7. With IE8 I am seeing bugs that require floats to be non floated. Elements floated to be absolutely positioned (for correct stack). I guess this is all normal since we are dealing with a new layout engine. Most site will cope very well in IE8, it's only some sites (yours and mine for example) that are some what broken. The CSS issues that courses such breakage must be fixed before IE is released to the general public. > > Yes it does get crazy. I call it Meta Mode Madness! > > Rightly so, so - apart from giving the IE-team some feedback for those > betas so they can improve things a bit, applying some damage-control > when IE8-final is out is probably better than trying to make sense of > the madness. I want a stand alone version of IE8. I can see the IE team spending to much time fixing up all these modes where they should really be focusing on just the real IE8 and better standards support. The madness is the backwards compatibility which I will not be testing any further. I myself will just stick with the real IE8 and maybe use IE7 mode occasionally to check for IE7. > I'll call in the "damage-control team"[1] when the time is right - when > IE8-final is isolated on its own workstation in my local network, and > will otherwise stay out of the madness and just make sure the > more sane browsers get what they deserve - the best. [...] > regards > Georg > > [1] http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/molly_1_15.html I wish I had a local network. I have just one laptop here, but I to intend on setting a local network in the future. I have added a new page that I will track issues with IE8 which I find. It can be found here. http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/ie-bugs.htm Alan http://css-class.com/
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