richard n wrote:
> I switched the layout of the nav elements from float:left to 
> display:inline. I then added nowrap, and some absolute positioning. 
> The title was floated:right with a big 28em left margin.
> 
> This works well in my 4 mac browsers (Safari, Opera, Firefox, IE 
> 5.2.3).

> http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames8/editorial.html
> 
"Works well" is a relative term, but it works the same in windows
browsers as in their Mac-OS equivalents.

Something _will_ eventually get lost on narrow windows, and more will
get lost when font resizing is applied. This is unavoidable when
'position: fixed' is used, so you'll just have to decide when it's
working well enough for comfort on a wide enough range.

> I'd like to get some feedback on whether it works in IE5 or 6 or 7 
> PC. I'm interested in what happens when the browser window is made 
> really narrow.

On really narrow windows (below 600 or something) the "endless scroll"
bug will take affect in IE6 - sideways. Will always happen when
"pseudo-fixed" elements are too wide for the window, and is not easily
preventable.

IE6 has a couple of more serious problems...
1: the nav doesn't always show up.
2: the nav gets cut off on the right side.

IE6 needs these additions in the separate stylesheet in order to behave
"well enough" (IMO).

#topbar #nav {position: relative; height: 1%; }

...to assure the nav stay visible and doesn't get cut off. This does in
fact make nav display as a block-element with 'hasLayout', but there
aren't all that many ways to get around those IE-bugs.

#topbar h1 {margin-bottom: -100px;}

...to prevent nav from dropping below h1 on narrow windows. The drop is
caused by the added styles above, but again: those IE-bugs are "hard to
kill".

The result: IE6 still handles that layout better than other browsers,
IMO. Pretty far from standard behavior though :-)

regards
        Georg
-- 
http://www.gunlaug.no
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