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> Although, normally, I'd agree with both of you, for the question I 
> posed these comments don't follow through :(

> I tell them what they want simply isn't possible for the last time 
> :)  I *do* know that if you click a menu item and then push the 
> "down" button on your keyboard, the menu stays open while the page 
> scrolls on down and you can see the rest (at least in Firefox)- but 
> I doubt the general public knows this!

That is absolutely correct.

> So, it still leaves the question as to whether or not you can 
> accomplish the dropdown effect, but have something in place that 
> causes the menu to "wrap" when it hits the bottom of the viewable 
> area - or if it's possible to have an "Expandable" dropdown on click 
> (not hover) with no javascript.

There's a very small chance I'm wrong, but I believe that would be 
impossible without scripting. The ony thing you could do is use 
overflow auto, but that presents usability and browser issues that 
will surely bring you more pain.

> For the moment, I've put in an expandable, CSS-based menu that 
> requires Javascript to make the "onclick" work.  It looks fine, 
> and - although I haven't sent it in yet - I think they'll be happy 
> with it.  My concern is the javascript - what happens if someone 
> comes and their browser has javascript turned off?

You'll have to try that yourself by disabling script in all your 
target browsers. If the menu is well-made, it will degrade but still 
be accessible.

You might also want to read this article:
http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/accessibility/pop_integrated/index.htm

The concepts and techniques will apply to any menu system you use - 
including Suckerfish - which has some inherent usability and 
accessibility issues of its own.

Good luck.

-- 
Al Sparber
PVII
http://www.projectseven.com

"Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling 
mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that 
repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday".







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