On 2/16/06, francky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >assuming i rework my whole theme framework (joy) to accomodate moving
> >backgrounds around, is there any way i can get:
> >
> >- a fixed globe at the bottom of the viewport (preferably above the
> >footer if the footer is showing) without putting the globe in the
> >footer (because other themes use the footer and i can't really change
> >that one part)
> >
> >- a max width of 1,000px with a color on the outside and the globe
> >showing inside of the content area instead of on top of or behind the
> >outside coloring (which it's doing now at larger browser sizes).
> >
> >- footer sticks at the bottom (like it does now).  i know
> >.master-form's specified height ruins some fixes for the globe, but i
> >don't know of another way that would work for the footer.
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >
> Wow, it's a complicated complex, but a good challenge! We have the
> expression: "It is like a wheelbarrow full of frogs: just as you have
> put back the jumped out frog, five other ones are jumping out". =-O

that's almost exactly what i'm working with.  :)  i considered myself
almost decent with css until i tried moving this one background...


> To tackle the long line problem, perhaps an idea (don't know it is
> possible in combination with the rest of the frogs):
> - Give the .wrapper-div a width in em's, so all clientside font sizing
> is allowed, and also at big resulutions the line-length is limited.
> - Then there is no need anymore to force the .master-form in a
> min-width/max-width.

i took out some containing divs for the test page since the rest of
the content they were containing was removed, so yes i would be able
to give an inner div a fixed width.  however, the footer would stretch
clear across the page then since it's only contained by master-form.


> - And more:  ... the globe isn't cut off at the right side anymore!
> See adapted testpage
> <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/cj-background-nw1.htm>.

the globe does finally fit there.  :)  for some reason, when i first
view the page in 1024x768 and then maximize to my full resolution of
1600x1200 the footer ends at the bottom of the content, leaving a
large white space underneath it, and the globe hides behind the footer
and gets cut off underneath the footer.  the footer also streches
across the entire page for me.

[resized way down, so it looks really bad]
http://sltclan.com/images/cj/globe-cut.png



> Is it a rock hard condition that everything should work (perfectly)
> without javascript? Otherwise it should be possible to implement an

with asp.net, if the end user doesn't have javascript they're pretty
much SOL.  having a working web site without a dependancy on JS went
out the window the first week i got here.  the whole deal with that
form around all the content is for postbacks so that asp.net can do
it's admittedly really cool stuff back on the server side.  if i could
stick my site up live...  i can't even do a site check before our
first demo monday.  :(


> AvailableWidth-sniffer, and to redirect to an appriopriate stylesheet
> for the most used resolutions; and an AvailableHeight-sniffer for the
> determination of the heights. The realist in me tells: around 90% has js
> turned on [1] ;-) , but I don't know the "asking-to-confirm" - rules in
> XP (the yellowish popup-taskbar), so that can be pretty annoying though ...

i'd prefer to stay away from width sniffers.  i've heard they don't
always work as well as you'd hope and it adds an extra complexity when
i've already got way more than enough.  :x

this might simply be a place in which if the user thinks the text is
getting too long they can shrink their window.  unfortunately i don't
have enough time to spend another day on this.  :(  i always seem to
need the impossible don't i?  :)

thanks heaps and bunches francky!
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