Okay.  I got what I wanted.  Another user suggested adding
"position:absolute" to the hr and it worked as shown here ...

<body>
Hello
<div style="border: 1px solid red; margin: 0; padding: 0;">
<hr style="position: absolute; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: 0; color:
#999999; background-color: #999999; height: 1px;" height="1"/>
</div>
Bye
</body>

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:53 AM
To: 'Ian Young'; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [css-d] Too much space around the hr tag


I do want the <hr> tag.  I put the border around the <hr> tag to show
that there are space above and below the <hr> in IE.  I want the red
border around an <hr> tag. But I don't want the "white air" in between
the red border and the <hr>. That is what I want to achieve.

I want the word "Hello" sitting right above the <hr> (almost touching).
And I want the word "Bye" to be directly below.  

Thanks.
Artcoder


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [css-d] Too much space around the hr tag


>>
In Firefox, it looks exactly the way I want it.  In IE there is too much
space before and after the <hr> tag.  I tried various ways of styling
the hr.  But am unable to collapse that space.  Please let be know how
to style this <hr> tag so that it looks in IE the way it looks in
Firefox.>>

The problem as I see it is that you have a border around the hr. Your
code for changing the colour of the hr ain't doing anything.

If you remove the hr tag altogether you get a nice red horizontal line
of the colour you wish, rendering exactly the same in IE and FF.



Ian

IY e-Solutions
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