New to the list, so hello everyone. This article discusses neutralizing css defaults amongst other things:
http://leftjustified.net/journal/2004/10/07/css-negotiation/ Basically start all your css with: * { padding:0; margin:0; } Cheers, JP On 7/15/05, Sean Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the comments. The link helped the most so thanks. > > I design visually. What do I care if strong is used over > bold...although I would not use either as that belongs in the style > sheet. I have to digress here a bit. When I was reading Shaun's > reply I kept picturing an image at an art gallery and someone asking > me how this painting makes me FEEL. I am sorry I don't work that way. > I design this way, I have my containers in the html and I have my > positioning/formatting in the stylesheet. I still see h tags and p > tags as more of a pain than not. But do understand why h tags are > important...now. > > It would not be so bad if there was an easy way to neutralize any > predefined styles associated with the tag or if there was a style that > could be used to mark it as a heading. Perhaps in CSS3. > > Thanks again for all of your time. It was much appreciated. > > Sean > > > On 7/15/05, Shaun Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its called semantics... > > > > H tags have a semantic meaning. They mean headings. Div's have no > > semantic meaning... > > > > Is the same thing for <b> and <strong>. The <b> tag has no semantic > > meaning. It is purely visual. The <strong> tag however has a semantic > > meaning, it assigns an emphasis. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean > > Montgomery > > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:43 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [css-d] using of DIVs > > > > Hi, > > > > OK first off I am not trying to start an argument just looking for a > > clear concise answer. > > > > I use divs and spans over h1, h2 h3 p etc. I use them for many reasons > > some of which are that they are neutral and generic, they have no extra > > bagage, they are a clean slate for styling, I don't have to worry about > > any predefined styles that come with that particulat tag like h1, h2, > > h3, p, etc... > > > > I don't see anywhere where it says that I should use a heading tag > > instead of a div for a heading. Granted I did not spend hours looking > > but I did take a look. > > > > So what is wrong with using divs and spans? To me they are a far better > > container than the others for the reasons stated above. Just my 2 > > cents. > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, Arlen Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:01 AM, victor NOAGBODJI wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > AFAIK, DIVs are to section a page (maybe I'm wrong, as i'm still a > > > > beginner). When learning CSS I use to write things like this: > > > > <div id="title">My Title</div> > > > > > > > > One day, I has been told that this is bad, according to web standard > > > > > > accessibility (or something like that) so I was told to do > > > > this: > > > > <h1 id="title">My Title</h1> > > > > > > > > Now I realise that using the later give me more problems. Because > > > > when it's a Div you have to set many attributes. Whereas > > > > h1,h2,h3....predifined tags have different preset attributes, that > > > > varies even with browsers. > > > > What's do you think of this? > > > > > > Not the best reason to take that approach. > > > > > > The reason you should use h1 id="title" instead of div id="title" is > > > semantic. What's in the (X)HTML doc should relate only to the logical > > > structure of the document and have nothing to do with the > > > presentation. Therefore you should use h1 if "My Title" is (as it > > > seems to be) the main headline of the document. Then you attach > > > whatever CSS you need to that id (or even just to h1, which is the way > > > > > I'd prefer to do it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have Fun, > > > Arlen > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > In God we trust, all others must supply data > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > > > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by > > > evolt.org <http://evolt.org> -- > http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > All constants are variables. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by > > evolt.org<http://evolt.org> > > -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > > > > > > -- > All constants are variables. > ______________________________________________________________________ > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > Supported by evolt.org <http://evolt.org> -- > http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
