Thanks for taking a look.  I cleaned up the HTML, and
it validates XHTML Transitional now, with valid CSS. 
The problem ended up being that I hadn't "float:
left"-ed the webtopMenuIconDiv DIVs; changing that
makes the line appear now.  But now, the icons are all
aligned left, and no amount of text-align: center and
margin-left/right: auto will push them back to the
middle (in Firefox - IE is fine).

Any suggestions?

Is it still breaking in Safari? (I'd love to test, but
don't have access to a Mac).

--- Charles Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On May 11, 2005, at 2:16 PM, James Hallam wrote:
> 
> > Source file is here:
> >
> >
>
http://james.globalhavens.com/css-discuss/webtop/webtop.html
> >
> > If you look at the HTML at the bottom, there are a
> few
> > DIVs with the class "webtopMenuIconDiv" that are
> > supposed to group the icons on the second row,
> > providing a little padding, and a visible vertical
> > line.  This is what I've currently got:
> >
> > #webtopMenuIconDiv {
> >     border-right: 1px #D8D2BD solid !important;
> >     padding: 0 10px 0 10px !important;
> >     background-color: pink !important;
> > }
> >
> > Nothing shows up, however.  No spacing, no border.
> > You'll see that the code is starting to become
> > littered with !important, something I'm not so
> happy
> > with.
> >
> > Can anyone spot something I've missed, or offer a
> > suggestion?  The content will eventually be
> generated
> > server side, so I really want a container div to
> hold
> > these icons for context, and not just provide the
> line
> > through some other means.
> >
> > I'm working with IE 6 and Firefox 1.0.3 - those
> are
> > are the only targetted browsers for now.
> >
> 
> In Safari your circular buttons + labels are in two
> rows, with the 
> second row starting at "reinsurance".
> 
> Your HTML code appears to be quite sloppy -> empty
> class names, extra 
> divs, etc. I would clean this up and then see how
> everything looks.
> 
> If it doesn't work in Safari, even though you're not
> targeting it, it's 
> an implication of why you're having problems...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> best,
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
>
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