Let me run it down real quick for you.
People would donate (and still do, by the way) for the experience of having a
nice home to play their games at. Providing the server is just one of the few
things you do as game-community host. Besides the server, you organize things
to do for your community members, things such as tournaments, playnights, etc.
Together you build a clan or community based on your values of life. This also
created a wide diversity among the communities and clans, everyone had a place
to go to feel home. Some clans and communities were all about serious stuff,
competitions, etc. Others about just fun. Some were about specific types of
people finding a place together. Together you build your community including
your servers. And by building this you gain supporters, people willing to pay a
few bucks a month to chip in for any cost.
That is how you run a community or clan based on group funding instead of
adwhoring your servers. This is how you create and maintain a healthy community
around games (such examples, gladly, are still around. Just look at the
hostable games which don’t include the option for ads. The communities around
those games are much healthier, the servers are much more enjoyable and you get
to bond as group much faster as well)
Saint K.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game
Willing to pay for what?
Nowadays anything “cool” is illegal or not worth donating for.
You tell me how much of a content on surf servers can be provided for money.
Plus, on top of frequent players, there are a lot of new players that just come
for a while, then disconnect and show up after only weeks. These will never
donate any money but they still use my services.
For example I run several 24/7 surf servers that only play one map. Why?
Because players want to be able to surf without interruptions on a single map.
What am I supposed to do if I want to serve 10 different maps both in EU and
US?
If you enjoy serving these servers with either loss or no gain at all then I’m
happy for you. In my case I am a university student and even going to Mc
Donald’s is something I have to be careful with since money doesn’t grow on
trees in my country, therefore I see advertising as a very optimal solution to
my problems. You don’t like it? Feel free to black list my servers. But don’t
come judging us for our financial strategy.
Back on topic: there was a steam update about an hour ago, however that didn’t
fix the issue.
BR,
Niko
Also @Neuro, while I agree, I think you just contributed to the spam using that
tone.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Saint K.
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game
For over a decade we managed just fine without ads. We had high quality
communities and clans all with their own server.
Your need for having as much servers as possibly is purely driven from an
e-penis point of view. We used to value quality over quantity, this is, without
a doubt, completely wrecked by both allowing advertisements in-game as well as
the quick-play system.
I remember days where VALVe furiously shutdown companies who tried to introduce
ad placements on the maps.
The statement that ads are very important for the continuation of the game is a
blatant lie. It only proves one thing, and that is your inability to put down a
concept which people are willing to donate for.
Saint K.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hail
Minecraftia
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 6:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game
back when i were a lil boy when i used 2 play 1.5 and 1.6 (idk witch I have
adhd self diagnosed though so take this with grain of salt) it was a lot of fun
ads are very important for the continuation of the game and the game industry
in general like ppl might get mad at skins and for what skins are good for the
game healty and stop from having op stuff in the game like imagine if you payed
real money for the r8 to shit on kids if that were the case i would rather buy
cheats lol( ;) )
but also on the other cheek ads are really shitty to look at i dont want to but
ariel liquitabs i dont clean my clothes i have parents to do that form e i dont
do ironing so i dont even see how the ads are relevant to countrstrike so i
vote to remove them
-big nig
On 14 December 2015 at 17:29, <[email protected]> wrote:
@Valve and everyone else
The whole process can be seen here in a video I just recorded.
https://scrn.storni.info/2015-12-14_18-21-0297.mp4
also @Ejizponken, nobody likes adverts, but nobody likes paying either. You
watch adverts on your TV, on the internet, while you drive, at school, on your
phone. And even if you don’t like them, they’re a way to sell stuff to people
and a way for advertisers to fund their service. If you don’t like a certain TV
channel because of their ads then you don’t watch it anymore. If you don’t like
a server because it’s ads supported, then you blacklist it. As simple as that.
BR,
Niko
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of iNilo
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 6:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game
I can now confirm that dynamic pages are indeed broken.
Static HTML seems to be working fine.
Exe version 1.35.1.4 (csgo)
Exe build: 16:07:06 Dec 8 2015 (6240) (730)
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