Some of these are downloadable (f8,f9 and kasumi), but others have fees and/or irksome confidentiality agreements. Peter Trei ----------------------------- >From sci.crypt: Bruce Schneier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thu 11:13 AM Subject: Fresh Meat: New Crypto Algorithms Announced The European Telecommunication Standards Institute (ETSI) has made a bunch of encryption algorithms public: <http://www.etsi.org/dvbandca/> My guess is that most of these are breakable, and that a good break paper is publishable. Bruce