In the WAP documentation I've found, only the WTLS mechanism is described. However I encountered some mention of additional security (cryptographic) mechanisms in WAP, maybe for form signing (application layer) - can anyone shade some light or point me to the right forum/group/site/paper? Many thanks... (why I need it ? finishing an overview on security for mobile commerce... other inputs welcome... ) Best Regards, Amir Herzberg IBM Research Lab in Haifa (Tel Aviv Office) http://www.hrl.il.ibm.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 11 11:17:52 2000 Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Received: from csf.colorado.edu ([128.138.129.195]) by zamboni.jab.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13YY9Q-000778-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:17:52 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=csf.colorado.edu) by csf.colorado.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13YYEz-0001nx-00; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:23:37 -0600 Received: from galaxy.csuchico.edu (galaxy.CSUChico.EDU [132.241.82.21]) by csf.colorado.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/csf) with ESMTP id MAA06930 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:23:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galaxy.csuchico.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23315; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popmail.lmu.edu (host-157-242-50-240.dhcp.lmu.edu [157.242.50.240]) by galaxy.csuchico.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23210 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [157.242.206.54] by popmail.lmu.edu (NTMail 4.30.0013/NT2109.01.19acd5a3) with ESMTP id mplsgaaa for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:08:41 -0700 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:05:35 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economics and Literature In-Reply-To: <a04320412b5e2bfd2f9b9@[10.0.1.2]> References: <p04330101b5e2b5b0ee1f@[216.254.77.128]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <p04330101b5e2b5b0ee1f@[216.254.77.128]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by galaxy.csuchico.edu id LAA23211 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.08 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug wrote: >>I'm amazed that the literary qualities of even chap. 1 of Capital are >>being called into question. Section 4 is one of Marx's most deservedly >>famous passages, the analysis of commodity fetishism, which blends >>political economy, pyschology, philosophy, and cultural analysis in >>dazzling ways. As much as I admire Keynes as a stylist, nothing he wrote >>holds a candle to this. Brad ripostes: >... §4 may be dazzling to you literati but 'tain't hardly accessible to >the toiling masses... It's true that Marx (vainly) hoped that workers would be able to read his CAPITAL. But it's important to remember that the German working-class of his day had a relatively high level of literacy, partly or even largely due to their own efforts at self-education. In any event, as many have shown, it's possible to translate Marx's book into a readable form (while updating it). I haven't gotten my copy yet, but Charlie's book promises to fit this bill. I notice that economics articles and books aren't even meant to be read except by the Profession. I guess that fits with the fact that most of it is totally wrong-headed (so that if a worker were to understand it, he or she would say "nonsense!") or is esoteric (so that it's irrelevant to life on earth), or is helping the economic power elites organize peoples' lives (so that workers who understood it might have a better understanding of how they're being screwed). Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
