Okay, here's something I've been thinking of for a while. Run a political discussion mailing list which mails audio files back and forth. This list, at least in the US, would enjoy the highest Constitutional protection. However, you'd never know if the low bits of the audio stream have been tampered with or not. In fact, you'd actually *presume* that they had been. Assuming you had effective stego, anyway. As Rick points out, we don't have any such. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.