At 06:38 PM 9/23/99 -0400, Eli Brandt wrote: >Arnold Reinhold wrote: >> Perry, if you really believe that the question of whether a given >> lump of object code contains a Thompson Trap is formally undecidable >> I'd be interested in seeing a proof. Otherwise Herr Goedel has >> nothing to do with this. > >That sure smells undecidable to me. Any non-trivial predicate P on Folks, its not that complex. Thompson suggested that the trojan compiler subvert only login and compiler code. The trojan would not subvert generic code; no funky Godelian self-referential stuff is necessary. Of course, this was before the 90s: the net, downloadable code, chronically lame OSes made other approaches much easier.
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