Oops, your so right. The defender has no ko threat in the 2nd bent
four. I didnt think that through.

Stefan

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Petri Pitkanen
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I am afraid can depend on rule set in use. I guess that under Japanese rules
> bent four is dead by definition.
>
>
>
> But having two of them does not really change anything as attacker can
> choose to fight then after each other.
>
> Petri
>
>
> 2013/12/10 Stefan Kaitschick <[email protected]>
>>
>> What happens with 2 bent fours?
>> You should be able to save one of them.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> In round 3 CrazyStone vs. Aya, probably Aya was expecting W to play L12
>> >> or
>> >> N12, if B's corner was not 100% dead in the playouts. It seems a bug in
>> >> Aya's playouts, but even if there was no bug, Aya could still
>> >> reasonably
>> >> expect W's L12 or N12 in the tree. Corner bent-four is not easy to
>> >> handle
>> >
>> >
>> > Yesterday I turned off bent4 code for test, and forgot. Aya understands
>> > bent4 as seki. And at end of playout, bent4 shape is counted as dead.
>> > It works well, but when outside of bent4 is semeai, it does not work.
>> > Maybe when outside W lib is 5, W has to play N12?
>> >
>> > And thanks for nice look cross-table and report. I was bit surprised
>> > I got runners-up 7 times in a row this year.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Hiroshi Yamashita
>> >
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