Jean-loup Gailly: 
<CAAsp4a1ssUQ0RqPQiSa4DAbWR0KPCshfFHSM=kamqhh7p0n...@mail.gmail.com>:
>> Play resumed, and pachi2 captured the dead white stone, but Zen19S passed
>instead of capturing the dead black stone.
>
>Actually pachi did not capture the dead white stone, it simply passed
>because it would still win
>even when both C2 and A8 are considered alive. The problem is that KGS
>ended the game
>immediately after this one pass, instead of sending a kgs-genmove_cleanup
>command to Zen.
>
>I reported this problem to wms in Aug 2011. wms made a change in the kgsGtp
>client, but not
>in the server. It seems that the change did not fix the problem. Zen was
>using client 3.5.8
>which has the change. The change uses "I got a pass back from
>kgs-genmove_cleanup" as the
>indicator that the game is finished. Pachi did get that kgs-genmove_cleanup
>and did pass, so
>everything was fine from Pachi's point of view. But Zen did not get a
>kgs-genmove_cleanup command,
>so it did not get an opportunity to capture the dead black stone at C2.

Actually, I used version 3.5.4 of kgsGtp.jar for the first three games 
of the tournament and then switched to 3.5.8 for safety. (Wms wrote that 
the bug was fixed in 3.5.3, anyway.)

>I think the only way to fix the problem reliably is to require two
>passes even in cleanup up mode.
>Both players need an opportunity to capture all dead stones, so both need
>to receive
>kgs-genmove_cleanup commands until they pass. Which implies that the game
>ends with two passes.
>
>My apologies to the Zen team for thinking initially that Zen received a
>kgs-genmove_cleanup
>command. And congratulations for winning the tournament, this is well
>deserved!

No problem.  I'd like to thank you for making things clear.  I could 
watch only Zen's side of the communication between the server and the 
client.  Your comments really helped a lot.

Hideki
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