Yes, thanks. Actually in the last try, I lost only 30 points and was having a chance as well. ManyFaces is not unbeatable with 29 stones. I also tried 2 games against Minirock2 with 6 stones, 1 win 1 loss. The first game was a test. Minirock2 is obviously a MCTS program and it handles ladders very well. In the second, I killed a big group. Minirock2 also has the popular semeai problem. I think its playing strength is maybe around 1d.
My guess would be Minirock2 is the Japanese program blast. Aja From: Stefan Kaitschick Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones Awesome attempt! 285 at R8 and you would have crushed it in the first try. Stefan On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Aja Huang <[email protected]> wrote: You should let me try. :) Aja From: David Fotland Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones I tried 29 stones once and it crushed me J David From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Williams Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones Nice. This should be interesting... On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> wrote: mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it. To get a big handicap, set up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same pattern as Martin's game. Regards, David > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Fotland > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones > > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress. My > closest source is dated 7/3/1998. I have this built into a gtp front end > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the engine is > not identical. Do you still want to continue with this bet? > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer" > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones > > > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :) > > > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still nowadays). > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he likely > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that. > > > > ingo. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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