Hi Darren, I think, I an also answer your questions on the charts.
> > Winning percents for White, as seen by "Many Faces of Go" > > http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-percents.jpg > > > > Territory estimates for White, as seen by ManyFaces > > http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-territory.jpg > ... > David, what is the territory chart saying? Is it based on playouts (i.e. > based on terminal positions), or is it counting the current board > position (i.e. as if both players were to pass)? No playouts at all involved. "Territory" is just counting the current board position in the traditional pre Monte-Carlo way. It is one of the nice old MF-10 features within ManyFaces, and thanks to David for leaving them in the code. It is quite typical that the fluctuations in Territory are much larger than in the relevant part of the Monte-Carlo percent chart. > (The territory charts says 15pts to black, with 52-55% to white at > around move 45; then says 40pts to white, with about 52% to white at > move 80.) The two charts are generated completely independently of each other. (This independence gives additional information especially to experienced users.) In the Monte-Carlo percent diagram each data point stems from 1,000 random games starting at the corresponding position. For reasons of computational speed only every third position is evaluated: after moves 3, 6, 9, 12, ... The positions after moves of Black are related to black dots, the others after moves of White. It is a bit strange that ManyFaces generates rather large fluctuations for the very first data points. Perhaps it would make sense to start the data points only at move 20 or so (David, do you hear me?). For me it would be also nice to have an option computing the % not only for every third but for every position in the game. Regards, Ingo. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
