but they might be most fair. s.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Michael Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > Of course the participants' opinions matter most, but I do not understand > the attraction to integer komi. Draws are ugly and inconvenient. > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I agree that 7.0 would be a better komi for the computer Olympiad, but it >> should be decided soon, since the komi affects the opening book, and an >> integer komi requires some changes in the playout algorithm to properly >> account for draws. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean-loup Gailly >> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:08 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] EGC computer-go tournament 9x9 >> >> >> >> > At the end Zen was a convincing winner, with 9 wins out of ten games. >> > Pachi on rank 2 with 5 points, >> >> >> >> The actual result is Zen 8 wins (won all its games, didn't play in two >> games because >> >> of parity), and Pachi still rank 2 but with 4 points only. In the last >> game against Pachi, >> >> Zen did not implement the KGS cleanup phase correctly, it passed while >> leaving >> >> dead stones on the board. So KGS indicates that Pachi has won. However the >> tournement >> >> >> rules http://www.egc2011.eu/index.php/en/computer-go/75-computer-go-reglement >> >> indicate "In case of trouble in the KGS counting of the score, the human >> referee >> >> is allowed to change the result - the situation on the board as the >> priority". >> >> So it is fair to say that Zen has won the game. >> >> >> >> ManyFaces also failed to implement the cleanup phase correctly in another >> game, >> >> but this did not affect the result. >> >> >> >> Jean-loup >> >> 2011/8/1 "Ingo Althöfer" <[email protected]> >> >> Today a 9x9 computer-go tournament was played within >> the European Go Congress: >> 5 bots participating, for each pairing two rounds (with different >> colours). >> >> At the end Zen was a convincing winner, with 9 wins out of ten games. >> Pachi on rank 2 with 5 points, ahead of ManyFaces, MyGoFriend, and >> MoGo. >> http://www.gokgs.com/tournEntrants.jsp?sort=s&id=608 >> >> Komi was 7.5. 16 out of the 20 games ended with wins for White. >> From the four wins with Black three were achieved by Zen, the other >> one by Pachi. >> >> I think it is really necessary to play in the Tilburg Olympiad with >> a smaller komi value. Probably 7.0 would be a fair choice. >> >> Ingo. >> >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
