Yamashita san,

Go version in AlphaZero 2017 finished the training in 34 hours according to 
Table S3.
And it looks like AlphaZero Symmetries in AlphaZero 2018 finished the training 
in the same time according to Figure S1.
So I think that the authors had adopted AlphaZero Symmetries in 2017 paper by 
mistake and retried the experiment again in 2018 paper.
In order to compensate symmetries with real self-plays, they generated 8 times 
more games and reduced positions per game to 1/8.
It is just my guess^^
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ICHIKAWA Yuji

> 2019/03/29 10:11、Hiroshi Yamashita <y...@bd.mbn.or.jp>のメール:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Number of learned positions from a game record
> 
>                 pos     steps  minibatch       games
> AlphaGoZero      293 (  700,000 * 2048) /   4,900,000                     3 
> days
> AlphaGoZero      219 (3,100,000 * 2048) /  29,000,000    256 x 40 block, 40 
> days
> AlphaZero 2017   137 (  700,000 * 4096) /  21,000,000
> AlphaZero 2018    20 (  700,000 * 4096) / 140,000,000
> ELF 2019         154 (1,500,000 * 2048) /  20,000,000
> AlphaZero(Chess)  65 (  700,000 * 4096) /  44,000,000
> AlphaZero(Shogi) 119 (  700,000 * 4096) /  24,000,000
> 
> All Network is 256 x 20 blocks, except AlphaGoZero 40 days.
> 
> Average of game moves are
> Go    220
> Chess  80
> Shogi 120
> 
> So I had thought learning all positions(from a game) once is nice.
> But AlphaZero2018 uses only 20 positions from a game.
> 
> 
> By the way, I did not received any mails since Ingo's mail(Mar 1 2019).
> 
> Erik reported in Feb 17 2019,
>> It looks like gmail is broken again for this list. I never got Remi's
> 
> Remi also reported in Mar 24 2019. (I found this from archives.)
>> I have just found out that the list is not sending emails to my free.fr
> 
> Thanks,
> Hiroshi Yamashita
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