By playing data, I mean enough games of Lee Sedol and even less for Shusaku.

Dne so 30. 1. 2016 16:07 uživatel Josef Moudrik <j.moud...@gmail.com>
napsal:

> Imo, you do not have enough playing data to train full network.
>
> One way to do this might be to have a general system to estimate player
> strength from his records. My http://gostyle.j2m.cz project does
> something similar, but for strong players it is not very precise..
>
> I have recently tried to do this using cnn (from position, predict rank of
> both players) and it works a bit, but still with high error and variance,
> so it is not very reliable.
>
> See my blog for a report on this
>
> http://jmoudrik.github.io/post/2016/01/15/convolutional_neural_net_for_Go_strength_prediction.html
>
> Regards,
> Josef
>
> Dne so 30. 1. 2016 15:50 uživatel Petri Pitkanen <
> petri.t.pitka...@gmail.com> napsal:
>
>> I do not think such exercise would give any meaningful results.  NN would
>> not imitate it's 'hero' 1-1 not even close
>>
>> Funny such discussion keep on going on in Chess and Go, in chess i think
>> Steiniz would be wiped of board by best players of today, but still he
>> would be way better as he created much of modern chess anyway. I am pretty
>> sure such players exists in Go as well
>>
>> 2016-01-30 14:23 GMT+02:00 "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> in a German computer-go subforum we have a discussion which
>>> involves a comparison of the "absolute" playing strengths of
>>> current hero Lee Sedol and Shusaku (1829-1862).
>>> http://senseis.xmp.net/?Shusaku
>>> It is not possible to let them play a match against each other.
>>>
>>> But what about the following: Build two neural nets A and B with the same
>>> overall structure. Let A be trained with the games of Sedol, and B
>>> be trained with the games of Shusaku. Then let go bots based on A
>>> and B play against each other. Would the outcome typically say something
>>> about the playing strengths of Sedol and Shusaku in comparison?
>>>
>>> Ingo.
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