On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:45:44AM -1000, Mark Boon wrote: > > I've found that AMAF gives very little boost with light playouts, > > you really need something fairly meaningful already to get any kind > > of real boost. To have at least 10% chance of beating GNUGo with > > reasonable time per game (to be able to play-test your bot), I think > > you can't avoid doing a lot more than plain UCT + AMAF + light playouts. > > I suppose it depends on what exactly you try to boost. > > As others already stated doing just light playouts, no tree-search, > AMAF gives a huge boost.
I never tried that, I was talking about UCT case only, sorry if that was unclear. > With light playouts and UCT tree-search, AMAF > still gives a considerable improvement. Maybe you can try to search > the archives, I think I posted about it. My MCTS ref-bot has a > parameter called 'useAMAF'. You can experiment with witching it on and > off with different numbers of playouts if you want to. If I remember > well, the difference was very obvious, even with high number of > playouts. Interesting, in my bot, AMAF really made only very small difference (maybe 15% -> 25%, +-5% [*]). Perhaps I had some bug in my implementation that caused these measurements. [*] My test records do not go back enough and I cannot re-check easily since apparently, in current Pachi non-AMAF UCT policy must be broken since it never seems to win against GNUGo, and I really don't feel motivated enough to debug plain UCB1. ;-) So I'm sorry if I misled anyone, perhaps it is/was some Pachi bug causing these observations of mine. -- Petr "Pasky" Baudis A lot of people have my books on their bookshelves. That's the problem, they need to read them. -- Don Knuth _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/