Also not Remi, but... Numenta is a startup funded by Palm founder Jeff Hawkins. He started it following up on his book 'On Intelligence', which I think is a very interesting read. I'd suggest it as a reading to anyone considering applying some form of Neural simulation to Go or any other problem.
At some point I did try to figure out what Numenta was trying to do. To some extent it sounds interesting but with limited use. IMO it strayed quite a bit from the original ideas from Hawkins' book. At least that is my impression. And what I don't like is that the solution doesn't translate. So for a pattern-matcher for Go for example, it has to learn the patterns at all possible board-locations in all orientations. The abstraction part where you see a pattern on one part of the board and then being able to recognise it on another part or in another rotation of the board is missing. But that doesn't necessarily mean there aren't any interesting ideas in there. I just think it's not nearly half there to be generally useful. Mark On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:03 AM, David Fotland <fotl...@smart-games.com> wrote: > Remi, what do you think of Numenta http://www.numenta.com/, a startup that > is using feedforward/feedback networks to model learning and pattern > recognition in the neocortex. Does this approach make sense or is it just > startup hype? > > http://www.numenta.com/for-developers/education/biological-background-htm.ph > p > > > David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- >> boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Rémi Coulom >> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:07 AM >> To: computer-go >> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Neural networks >> >> Petr Baudis wrote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > Is there some "high-level reason" hypothesised about why there are >> > no successful programs using neural networks in Go? >> > >> > I'd also like to ask if someone has a research tip for some >> > interesting Go sub-problem that could make for a nice beginner neural >> > networks project. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> >> At the time when it was fashionable, I would have sold my pattern-Elo >> stuff as a neural network, because, in neural-network jargon, it is in >> fact a one-layer network with a softmax output. Since the development >> of >> support-vector machines, neural networks have been considered >> completely >> obsolete in the machine-learning community. From a marketing point of >> view, it is not a good idea to do research on neural networks nowadays. >> You must give your system another name. >> >> Rémi >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
