Many Faces also counts real liberties, and is quite fast enough.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go-
> boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Mark Boon
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:04 PM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Pseudo liberties: Detect 2 unique liberties?
> 
> I can confirm, with a bit of optimization, counting real liberties is
> only marginally slower than counting pseudo-liberties. So there's
> really no benefit that I can see from using pseudo liberties.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Álvaro Begué <alvaro.be...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > When John Tromp and I were thinking about these things in 2007 we
> > decided to switch to counting real liberties instead of
> > pseudo-liberties. Someone (Rémi?) told us that in the end the
> > performance difference wasn't very large, and we verified this.
> >
> > Álvaro.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Isaac Deutsch <i...@gmx.ch> wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I'm currently using the method described here to detect if a group is
in
> >> atari (1 real liberty):
> >>
> >> http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2007-November/012350.html
> >>
> >> Thus I store the number of pseudo libs, the sum and the sum of squares
for
> >> each group.
> >>
> >> Now for heavy playouts, it would be useful if I could somehow modify
this
> so
> >> I can easily detect if a group can be put into atari (meaning it has
> exactly
> >> 2 real liberties).
> >>
> >> My intuition tells me it should be possible by also storing the sum of
> >> positions^3. However, I can't quite wrap my head around how to do the
> check.
> >> Has anyone looked into this before, and found an answer? I like this
> approach
> >> because it's so easy and fast.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Isaac
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