On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 09:15 -0700, Ben Shoemaker wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I really can't see in here what we do if I say my stones are alive > > and you say they're dead, I request resuming the game, you pass > > (because you don't want to fill in your own territory), and then I > > pass. The game has ended again, and we still have a dispute. > > The point of the "continuation" play is to prove the "alive" or "dead" claim. > Each side must play out the position until both sides agree on the state of > the stones. This may require playing until the stones have two eyes and are > unconditionally alive or else playing until the stones are captured and > removed from the board. The point of this "continuation" is not to arrive at > a new final board position and score, but to reach an agreement about the > status of stones in the original final board position. If the stones were > actually "unsettled" this can get quite messy. >
That's what really irks me about the playout rule. First of all, the idea is that the play-out has the ONLY purpose to settle the dispute and when it's finished you score the original position. I have some questions about that: 1. What if you still disagree and claim that you simply mis-played the play-out? I have been completely assured that this exercise is not considered part of the game, only part of the SCORING of the game. Therefore, if either player thinks he misplayed the play-out, it should be replayed until everyone is satisfied, right? The goal here is not to see who is better, but to find the truth. 2. Before the play-out phase, do you calculate both possible scores then go by the one that the play-outs indicate was correct? Or do you try to reconstruct the original position? What if several groups are in question or there are subtle interactions? How do you integrate that back into the score from the original disputed position? It seems real messy to me to view this as part of the scoring procedure and not part of the game. - Don > Ben. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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