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From: Christoph Birk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Don Dailey wrote:

>> It was obviously unclear enough to some of us that it required some
>> analysis.   Even the strong Leela did not see this as merely filling in
>> the empty points.

> That's because it involves a Seki that Leela does not handle properly, but 
> any 10 kyu should recognize.

Thank you! At present, computer go programs may be strong relative to each 
other, and they may actually beat some humans of moderate ability, especially 
at timescales too quick for amateur humans, but most programs also have 
high-kyu-sized gaps in their knowledge, including seki and nakade concepts.

We won't see programs regularly beating pros until those gaps are filled. 
Substituting billions of playouts for a life-or-death or seki analysis which 10 
kyu players can manage in seconds is inefficient; computers could be doing 
something more effective with that time.


      
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