Thanks!
I thought the same way! :)

Norbert

2008/5/29 Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Norbert Gábor Papp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>> Thanks for your reply! I've tried to make the links workable...
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Here is a situation, from phase1-phase5 (I hope you'll se the
>> pictures).
>>
>>
>> Phase1
>>
> The game is not over.  With skilful play, the white group will die, and
> White will be unable to live inside the black group.
>
>  Phase2
>> Phase3
>> Phase4
>> Phase5
>>
> In each of these, the game is not over.  With skilful play, both groups
> will live, and White will be unable to live inside the black group.
>
>  I've used SmartGo, which engine is based on GNUGo, and tried to make
>> some very beginner examples.
>>
>> This is a  #territory inside territory# type example. You'll see my
>> problem when you look at phase1-phase4, and after you look at phase5.
>>
>> In phase5, all the black stones are dead.
>>
>
> No, they are alive.  Even if White is a strong player and Black is a
> beginner, that black group will live.
>
>  In all other cases they live,
>> and black also has some territory. Is this normal? Why is the phase5
>> situation differs from phase1-phase4.
>>
>
> Because the software you are using is getting things wrong.
>
>  What happens when two Go program plays against each other, and
>> encounter a similar siuation?
>>
>
> They continue playing.  In the last four positions, the game is far from
> finished.  In the first position, White might recognise that it has no
> chance of making a live group, and resign.
>
>  What if white that all the black stone
>> are dead, and black thinks the opposite?
>>
>
> They resume play, and try to capture the stones which they think are dead.
>
> Nick
>
>
>> I hope you'll understand me.. Thanks! Norbert
>>
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