Christoph Birk wrote:
>
> On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Olivier Teytaud wrote:
>  ... is room for improvement. But 19x19 is something else, perhaps we
>>
>> can have the Dan, but I'm not sure of that in spite of the gentle
>> words of
>> Catalin, and I'm sure the current
>> mogo can't win against a professionnal player in 19x19 whenever we
>> have the best cluster in the world, and whenever the professionnal
>> player
>> is both ill and a bit drunk :-)
>
> By reaching 1-dan (amateur) you would have received
> 1 M$ a few year ago from Mr. Ing.
I would love to see a well organized, attempt to prove or disprove that
programs have reached just 1 Dan level in 19x19.    To be convincing I
think you would need to have a few players with solid 1 Dan ratings each
play a series of games against the target program on the target
platform.    Of course one would have to define which rating system is
used in addition.    Furthermore,   the players would have to be
significantly motivated to win.  such as serious bucks for each game
they win and nothing for a loss.  

By the way,  I absolutely cringe when the reason why a player lost a
game is "because they were experimenting", or "they made a mistake" as
was reported with the Mogo match.   Isn't that normally a given?     I
cannot tell from the wording if Mogo is apologizing for winning and feel
that the game should not be counted,  or whether they are just making a
rather mundane statement of fact.


- Don



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