We haven't seen strong statistical evidence for intransitivity in
    computer go, but I don't think anyone has looked very hard yet.


It seems like it probably exists to some degree - It would be
interesting to study this. 


- Don




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> I've mentioned this before, but hopefully not recently enough to make
> this annoying. Computer go people and corewars people overlap
> somewhat. Intransitivity is extremely important for corewars,
> making corewars a good domain to study it.
>
> Here is an example of a nice graphical way to visualize
> intransitivities between corewars programs.
> http://www.koth.org/lcgi-bin/hugetable.pl?hill94x 
>
> In corewars, you might look at a table like this and say "Oh, I'm
> losing too many games against x-type strategy, I need to concentrate
> on that aspect of my bot." Or you might say, "I'm doing great against
> y-type strategy, and I'm betting there will be a lot of those in the
> upcoming tournament." It's more than predicting the outcome of a
> particular matchup, or a ranking in a static field.
>
> We haven't seen strong statistical evidence for intransitivity in
> computer go, but I don't think anyone has looked very hard yet.
>
> - Dave Hillis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vlad Dumitrescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: computer-go <computer-go@computer-go.org>
> Sent: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 5:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Odd results on 19x19
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 11:00 PM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > The idea of a non one dimension rating model is interesting.  If you
> > decide to pursue this I can give you the CGOS data in a compact format,
> > 1 line per result.
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm not sure I get the whole picture regarding multi-dimensional
> ratings. How can you compare two players with a 2-dimensional rating?
> You can't, so how would one use this rating? In my book, a rating's
> goal is to make things comparable...
>
> best regards,
> Vlad
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