On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:10:30PM +0100, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
> Petr Baudis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > is there any way to send game comments through kgsGtp on your own
> > (without the opponent triggering you)?
>
> I think some possibility to send messages would be great. I could swear
> I saw MogoBot do this, but I couldn't find anything in the KGSGtp
> documentation.
>
> The message I would want to print out most is "This bot will resign by
> itself if it's lost. If it does not resign in a losing position, the
> status of some groups is not clear, and should be played out, or there
> are still some winning chances. It will pass when it thinks it has won."
Printing a _greeting_ message is possible already - just returning it in
response to the "name" GTP command should work, I believe.
> What I've seen several times is that the game gets passed out in the
> middlegame with a large fight almost resolved (in disfavor of the bot,
> except that it doesn't understand that sometimes). My bot will only pass
> out when this wins in the count, so this usually ends up in scoring
> dispute and an annoyed human. I guess people are aking to interpret
> "pass" as "resign" when they are winning, but the program's intention is
> directly the opposite in this case.
Especially for bots that are in ddk level, I think it's the best
approach for both sides if the bot plays chinese rules and just capture
all dead stones. (Or you might use some advanced heuristic and not
capture "obviously dead" stones - like groups that have not even one
eye, even false.)
> > Also, it could be interesting if the experimental bots could print the
> > winning probability for each move they play in free games.
>
> Most bots are unranked and hence most games are free, so I'm not sure
> this is a good idea. Knowning the winning percentage gives you an
> advantage and can also be very annoying.
It could be explicitly turned on/off by the opponent by uttering some
special command (bot can already process that using the kgs-chat
command). Then I think it's up to the bot owner if he wants to allow
this at all or not (in the same way as that it's up to him whether to
allow undo in free games).
> Being able to broadcast a message to all spectators minus the opponent
> would be better. This is "whispering" on the chess servers. No idea if
> KGS has something similar.
I'm personally not really too fond of this idea at all.
--
Petr "Pasky" Baudis
We don't know who it was that discovered water, but we're pretty sure
that it wasn't a fish. -- Marshall McLuhan
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