The ladder obviously predates CGOS. It doesn't have any advantages -- just some differences. I polled the participants last year about retiring it in light of the advent of CGOS, but some people wanted to keep going. It's not like it's high overhead for me, so I did.

--Eric

        Eric Pettersen
        Computer Go Ladder administrator
        http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/go/ladder.html

On Jan 17, 2007, at 2:59 PM, terry mcintyre wrote:

CGOS has many strong points: it automatically schedules games, it has a lot of sample points to drive the ELO ratings, it preserves game records, and it has many participating programs. It also distinguishes between versions of the programs - important to consider when the CGL games span several years. Does anyone know which version of go++ is at the top of the CGL, and which versions of which programs were beaten to accomplish that result?

The Computer Go Ladder, on the other hand, includes a number of programs which are not presently represented in the CGOS field. It also attempts to define differences in terms of handicap stones, which is more familiar to most Go players than elo points. On the downside, it appears to depend on a very small set of games, does not preserve all game records, and operates on a glacially slow timescale.

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It seems far less automatic, so I would think it has disadvantages.

Cheers,
David



On 17, Jan 2007, at 1:45 PM, Chris Fant wrote:

> Does the ladder have any advantage over CGOS in any respect?
>
> On 1/17/07, terry mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Is the Computer Go Ladder still active? I don't see any change in
>> standings
>> since August 2006, and I suspect that Viking and Mogo would do
>> rather well
>> against many of the current contestants, based upon their results
>> on the
>> CGOS server:
>>
>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/go/ladder.html
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