I believe there was general consensus to do more maintenance releases, as
witnessed in the other thread.

There have been discussions on what should go into 2.x.1, 2.x.2, etc., but
I don't think we have a clear proposal. It would be nice to put that
together, so committers know where all to commit patches to. Otherwise,
release managers will have to look through branch-2 and pull in the fixes.
Either approach is fine by me, but would be nice to start a [DISCUSS]
thread on how to go about this.

Any takers?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Sangjin Lee <sjl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Strong +1 for having a 2.6.1 release. I understand Vinod has been trying to
> get that effort going but it's been stalled a little bit. It would be good
> to rekindle that effort.
>
> Companies with big hadoop 2.x deployments (including mine) have always
> tried to stabilize a 2.x release by testing/collecting/researching critical
> issues on the release. Each would come up with its own set of fixes to
> backport. We would also communicate it via offline channels. During the
> hadoop summit, we thought it would be great if we all came together and
> create a public stability/bugfix release on top of 2.x (2.6.1 for 2.6 for
> example) with all the critical issues fixed.
>
> Thanks,
> Sangjin
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for the notification. Trying to back port bug fixes.
> >
> > - Tsuyoshi
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hi Hadoopers!
> > >
> > > Over in HBase we've been discussing the impact of our dependencies on
> our
> > > downstream users. As our most fundamental dependency, Hadoop plays a
> big
> > > role in the operational cost of running an HBase instance.
> > >
> > > Currently the HBase 1.y release line supports Hadoop 2.4, 2.5, and
> > 2.6[1].
> > > We don't drop Hadoop minor release lines in minor releases so we are
> > > unlikely remove anything from this set until HBase 2.0, probably at the
> > end
> > > of 2015 / start of 2016 (and currently we plan to continue supporting
> at
> > > least 2.4 for HBase 2.0 [2]). Lately we've been discussing updating our
> > > shipped binaries to Hadoop 2.6, following some stability testing by
> part
> > of
> > > our community[3]. Unfortunately, 2.6.0 in particular has a couple of
> bugs
> > > that could destroy HBase clusters should users decide to turn on HDFS
> > > encryption[4]. Our installation instructions tell folks to replace
> these
> > > jars with the version of Hadoop they are actually running, but not all
> > > users follow those instructions so we want to minimize the pain for
> them.
> > >
> > > Regular maintenance releases are key to keeping operational burdens low
> > for
> > > our downstream users; we don't want them to be forced to choose between
> > > living with broken systems and stomaching the risk of upgrades across
> > > minor/major version numbers. Looking back over the three aforementioned
> > > Hadoop versions, 2.6 hasn't had a patch release since 2.6.0 came out in
> > Nov
> > > 2014, when 2.5 had its last patch release as well. Hadoop 2.4 looks to
> > be a
> > > year without a release[5]. On our discussion of shipping Hadoop 2.6
> > > binaries, one of your PMC members mentioned that with continued work on
> > the
> > > 2.7 line y'all weren't planning any additional releases of the earlier
> > > minor versions[6].
> > >
> > > The HBase community requests that Hadoop pick up making bug-fix-only
> > patch
> > > releases again on a regular schedule[7]. Preferably on the 2.6 line and
> > > preferably monthly. We realize that given the time gap since 2.6.0 it
> > will
> > > likely take a big to get 2.6.1 together, but after that it should take
> > much
> > > less effort to continue.
> > >
> > > [1]: http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#hadoop
> > > [2]: http://s.apache.org/ReP
> > > [3]: HBASE-13339
> > > [4]: HADOOP-11674 and HADOOP-11710
> > > [5]: http://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> > > [6]: http://s.apache.org/MTY
> > > [7]: http://s.apache.org/ViP
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean
> >
>



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