>> lets fork this thread into the appropriate ML and discuss the practical,
achievable
>> steps that can be included into the release criteria of Hadoop 2.0.5-beta

Seems to me common-dev is the appropriate ML, and Arun has invited Jiras to
include.
Open a Jira with your suggested list, and we carry on the discussion from
there.  Does that work?


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> > I propose we continue the original plan and make a 2.0.5-beta release by
> May end with the following content:
>
> I have a very basic question: what are the steps that we, as a community,
> are willing to undertake to ensure that our aggressive release schedule
> (end of May is exactly two weeks away) and our intent of actually
> calling this a beta release would be realistic?
>
> Please tell me if my expectations are incorrect, but to me the -beta would
> signify it being a 'safe' target for the downstream components. We're still
> finding *very* basic and *very* disruptive issues (MAPREDUCE-5240 is
> a good example) that essentially mean DOA for downstream that depends
> on this functionality.
>
> Are we comfortable with delivering 2.0.5-beta and later on starting
> to discover things like MAPREDUCE-5240 more or less accidentally?
>
> As I mentioned in a different thread -- there are a few things that
> Apache Bigtop can help with in that regard -- but they can only
> happen if we as a community agree that they need to happen
> before we can call Hadoop 2.x a beta release.
>
> If this sounds useful to the Hadoop community at large -- lets fork
> this thread into the appropriate ML and discuss the practical, achievable
> steps that can be included into the release criteria of Hadoop 2.0.5-beta
> as it is being discussed here.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>

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