Absolutely. And if such byte level security is inbuilt into the product, and 
data access is isolated, which also means hacks can be isolated too, then it 
becomes easier for us to sell the idea to the Hospitals CIOs and CSOs. Let’s 
hear what our folks here have to say about it too. 

Regards//K

-----Original Message-----
From: Xianqing Yu [mailto:yuxian...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:04 PM
To: Kingshuk Chatterjee; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
Cc: Peng Ning
Subject: Re: Make Hadoop run more securely in Public Cloud environment

Hi Kingshuk,

Thank you for your interesting.

I think you make a very nice example. If Healthcare company push their data to 
public cloud, the byte-level access control can minimize the data every party 
can get (e.g. task process). So even one task process or TaskTracker is hacked, 
the information loss can be minimized.

Another feature is also very help to this scenario. Currently all NameNode and 
DataNodes are sharing the same key to generate Block Access Token. If the 
hacker get the key by hacking any one of HDFS machine, she or he potentially 
can read everything in the HDFS and impact is huge. So I re-design that to make 
sure that, if hacker success to attack one machine, he or she can only get what 
is on this machine, not others in the cluster.

And also secure channel (encrypted channel) to transfer data can be another 
security bonus.

Thanks,

Xianqing

-----Original Message-----
From: Kingshuk Chatterjee
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:23 PM
To: 'Peng Ning'
Cc: yuxian...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Make Hadoop run more securely in Public Cloud environment

Hi Xianqing -

I am a systems architect and a consultant for Healthcare industry, and the 
first impression I get from your email below is that the byte level security 
can be a very helpful feature in securing patient's health information (PHI), 
and assuring the healthcare service providers to take steps to push their data 
to public cloud.

I will be happy to contribute in anyway, let me know.

Regards//K

Kingshuk Chatterjee
Director, Technology Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: Xianqing Yu [mailto:yuxian...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:19 AM
To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
Cc: Peng Ning
Subject: Make Hadoop run more securely in Public Cloud environment

Hi Hadoop community,

I am a Ph.D student in North Carolina State University. I am modifying the 
Hadoop's code (which including most parts of Hadoop, e.g. JobTracker, 
TaskTracker, NameNode, DataNode) to achieve better security.

My major goal is that make Hadoop running more secure in the Cloud environment, 
especially for public Cloud environment. In order to achieve that, I redesign 
the currently security mechanism and achieve following
proprieties:

1. Bring byte-level access control to Hadoop HDFS. Based on 0.20.204, HDFS 
access control is based on user or block granularity, e.g. HDFS Delegation 
Token only check if the file can be accessed by certain user or not, Block 
Token only proof which block or blocks can be accessed. I make Hadoop can do 
byte-granularity access control, each access party, user or task process can 
only access the bytes she or he least needed.

2. I assume that in the public Cloud environment, only Namenode, secondary 
Namenode, JobTracker can be trusted. A large number of Datanode and TaskTracker 
may be compromised due to some of them may be running under less secure 
environment. So I re-design the secure mechanism to make the damage the hacker 
can do to be minimized.

a. Re-design the Block Access Token to solve wildly shared-key problem of HDFS. 
In original Block Access Token design, all HDFS (Namenode and
Datanode) share one master key to generate Block Access Token, if one DataNode 
is compromised by hacker, the hacker can get the key and generate any  Block 
Access Token he or she want.

b. Re-design the HDFS Delegation Token to do fine-grain access control for 
TaskTracker and Map-Reduce Task process on HDFS.

In the Hadoop 0.20.204, all TaskTrackers can use their kerberos credentials to 
access any files for MapReduce on HDFS. So they have the same privilege as 
JobTracker to do read or write tokens, copy job file, etc.. However, if one of 
them is compromised, every critical thing in MapReduce directory (job file, 
Delegation Token) is exposed to attacker. I solve the problem by making 
JobTracker to decide which TaskTracker can access which file in MapReduce 
Directory on HDFS.

For Task process, once it get HDFS Delegation Token, it can access everything 
belong to this job or user on HDFS. By my design, it can only access the bytes 
it needed from HDFS.

There are some other improvement in the security, such as TaskTracker can not 
know some information like blockID from the Block Token (because it is 
encrypted by my way), and HDFS can set up secure channel to send data as a 
option.

By those features, Hadoop can run much securely under uncertain environment 
such as Public Cloud. I already start to test my prototype. I want to know that 
whether community is interesting about my work? Is that a value work to 
contribute to production Hadoop?

I created JIRA for the discussion. 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-8803#comment-13455025

Thanks,

Xianqing


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