yujun777 commented on code in PR #68646:
URL: https://github.com/apache/doris/pull/68646#discussion_r4143668516


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fe/fe-core/src/main/java/org/apache/doris/mtmv/MTMVRelationManager.java:
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@@ -349,34 +359,167 @@ public void dropTable(Table table) {
         // because a dropped table is the one change whose query is gone 
beyond doubt. What the two record
         // is the same state either way. Unlike a rename it stays an 
invalidation: the table is gone for
         // good, so the state is not something a later alter can make obsolete.
-        processBaseTableChange(new BaseTableInfo(table), "The base table has 
been deleted:", false);
+        processBaseTableChange(new BaseTableInfo(table), "The base table has 
been deleted:", null);
     }
 
     /**
      * update mtmv status to `SCHEMA_CHANGE`.
      *
      * @param isReplace
+     * @param queryJudgedColumns the names the alter gives the table or takes 
away from it, which leave the
+     *                           judgement about each MV's state to that MV's 
own query, or null when the
+     *                           alter is not one a query decides. The names 
are carried rather than judged
+     *                           before the call because the judgement is 
about them; see
+     *                           {@code AlterOp#queryJudgedColumnNames} for 
which operations name one, and
+     *                           {@link #invalidateMvUnlessQueryHolds} for 
what is asked about it. A rename
+     *                           of the base table names no column: it is left 
to the record below, which
+     *                           says what the MV that keeps spelling the old 
name needs to hear
      */
     @Override
-    public void alterTable(BaseTableInfo oldTableInfo, Optional<BaseTableInfo> 
newTableInfo, boolean isReplace) {
+    public void alterTable(BaseTableInfo oldTableInfo, Optional<BaseTableInfo> 
newTableInfo, boolean isReplace,
+            QueryJudgedChange queryJudgedChange) {
         // when replace, need deal two table
         if (isReplace) {
             // REPLACE TABLE already invalidates the IVM baseline explicitly, 
see Alter#processReplaceTable
-            processBaseTableChange(newTableInfo.get(), "The base table has 
been updated:", false);
+            processBaseTableChange(newTableInfo.get(), "The base table has 
been updated:", null);
         }
-        boolean renamed = !isReplace && newTableInfo.isPresent()
-                && !Objects.equals(oldTableInfo.getTableName(), 
newTableInfo.get().getTableName());
-        // A rename is the one change whose query check is skipped: the MV 
query keeps spelling the old
-        // name, so it is unanalyzable by construction, and the reason it 
would be invalidated with --
-        // "the query is no longer analyzable" -- says less than the message 
this call records anyway.
-        boolean checkQueryUsable = !renamed;
-        processBaseTableChange(oldTableInfo, "The base table has been 
updated:", checkQueryUsable);
+        processBaseTableChange(oldTableInfo, "The base table has been 
updated:", queryJudgedChange);
     }
 
 
     /**
-     * An MV's query is only as good as the base table schema it was analyzed 
against. Re-analyzing the
-     * MV query here (right after the alter was applied) is what detects a 
changed column identity:
+     * Whether the query, as it is analysed now, reads a column of any of 
these names, and reads it where
+     * the change can reach it.
+     *
+     * <p>There are two places a name is the change's to answer for. One is a 
column of the table the change
+     * is about: that is the column this view's rows were computed from, and 
the names are matched
+     * case-insensitively because a name is what moves. The other is a column 
the query reaches across a
+     * scope boundary -- the plan records those on the Apply that stands for 
the subquery, whose correlation
+     * slots are the outer columns its right side reads -- because such a name 
is the scopes' to answer for
+     * rather than the query's: the nearest column to the reference answers 
for it, so a column the change
+     * takes away from a scope inside leaves the name to one outside, and a 
column it gives to a scope inside
+     * takes the name over. A name reached with the qualifier of another table 
inside the query's own scope
+     * is neither: no later change can move it, so one to a column it does not 
name is one this view's rows
+     * do not depend on.
+     */
+    private static boolean reachesAnyColumnOf(Plan plan, BaseTableInfo 
baseTableInfo, Set<String> columnNames) {
+        if (plan == null) {
+            // A query whose plan was not kept is one this cannot be answered 
about, and "it does" is the
+            // answer that keeps the view safe.
+            return true;
+        }
+        Set<String> names = Sets.newTreeSet(String.CASE_INSENSITIVE_ORDER);
+        names.addAll(columnNames);
+        LineageInfo lineage = LineageInfoExtractor.extractLineageInfo(plan);
+        for (SetMultimap<?, Expression> byType : 
lineage.getDirectLineageMap().values()) {
+            if (reachesAnyColumn(byType.values(), names, baseTableInfo)) {
+                return true;
+            }
+        }
+        // The dataset predicates once, not once per output column: the 
per-output copy of them the lineage
+        // also offers holds the same expressions for every column the query 
produces, and scanning it would
+        // visit each of them once per column.
+        if (reachesAnyColumn(lineage.getDatasetIndirectLineageMap().values(), 
names, baseTableInfo)) {
+            return true;
+        }
+        if (reachesAnyColumnOfASubquery(plan, names, baseTableInfo)) {
+            return true;
+        }
+        return reachesAnyColumnAcrossScopes(plan, lineage, names, 
baseTableInfo);
+    }
+
+    /** Whether this slot is a column of this table, through whatever views 
stand between the two. */
+    private static boolean isColumnOf(Slot slot, BaseTableInfo baseTableInfo) {
+        if (!(slot instanceof SlotReference)) {
+            return false;
+        }
+        return ((SlotReference) slot).getOriginalTable()
+                .map(table -> new BaseTableInfo(table).equals(baseTableInfo))
+                .orElse(false);
+    }
+
+    /**
+     * Whether a name the change is about is answered for inside a subquery, 
out of that subquery's own
+     * scope.
+     *
+     * <p>This is the one place a name can move without any column the view 
produces depending on it: the
+     * scope of a subquery is internal, so which column answers for a name 
there changes what the query
+     * returns -- a row, or none -- while every column of the view stays the 
one it was. The lineage of the
+     * view's columns does not reach it, so the scope the subquery became is 
read here, expression by
+     * expression, the way the lineage is read for the view's own.
+     *
+     * <p>Two things are read. One is a value the subquery itself names -- an 
expression of its own under one
+     * of these names, rather than a column of a table -- because that is what 
a name the change takes away
+     * falls back to, and it decides the rows whether the subquery is a 
predicate or a value. The other is a
+     * column of the table the change is about, which decides the rows only 
when the subquery's output is
+     * one the query reads: an EXISTS tests the rows of its subquery and not 
what it projects, so a name it
+     * projects and never compares is one this view's rows do not depend on.
+     */
+    private static boolean reachesAnyColumnOfASubquery(Plan plan, Set<String> 
names,
+            BaseTableInfo baseTableInfo) {
+        for (LogicalApply<?, ?> apply : 
plan.<LogicalApply>collectToList(LogicalApply.class::isInstance)) {
+            boolean outputDecidesRows = !((LogicalApply<?, ?>) 
apply).isExist();
+            for (Plan node : 
apply.right().<Plan>collectToList(Plan.class::isInstance)) {
+                for (Expression expression : node.getExpressions()) {
+                    if (isNamedByTheSubquery(expression, names)

Review Comment:
   Fixed in d39e12d51aa. You are right, and measured: the MV holds `id=1` and a 
light `ADD COLUMN flag` on the inner table left it SCHEMA_CHANGE, for a 
subquery whose own `flag` nothing reads.
   
   The read now matches a value the subquery answers for itself only where an 
expression in the subquery actually reads it -- the slot is a value the 
subquery produced rather than a column of a table -- which is the distinction 
between this and the `1 AS flag` thread: there the group by and the having read 
that name after the drop, here the projected `1 AS flag` is only named. Pinned 
as `named_not_read_*` in the drop suite, and the earlier `alias_*` case still 
invalidates, so the side that matters is unchanged.
   



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fe/fe-core/src/main/java/org/apache/doris/alter/Alter.java:
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@@ -373,8 +374,30 @@ private boolean 
processAlterOlapTableInternal(List<AlterOp> alterOps, OlapTable
             throw new DdlException("Invalid alter operations: " + 
currentAlterOps);
         }
         if (needChangeMTMVState(alterOps)) {
-            Env.getCurrentEnv().getMtmvService()
-                .alterTable(oldBaseTableInfo, newBaseTableInfo, 
currentAlterOps.hasReplaceTableOp());
+            // Which columns an operation's effect on a view turns on is the 
operation's to say, see
+            // AlterOp#queryJudgedColumnNames, and every clause of the alter 
has to name them: a batch that
+            // mixes a dropped column with a type change is decided by neither 
-- no query says anything
+            // about a type change -- and stays invalidated the way it was 
before the queries were asked at
+            // all. Each of them also has to have reached the table. A schema 
change that is not a light one
+            // is applied by a job, which may not have run where this hook 
runs: the table still holds the
+            // column the change is about, every query still analyses against 
it, and an invalidation
+            // decided on that answer would be about the table from before the 
change. What is asked is
+            // whether the change has reached the table, which is the same 
fact the re-analysis reads, so
+            // the two answers cannot disagree.
+            boolean judgedByQuery = alterOps.stream().allMatch(op -> 
!op.queryJudgedColumnNames().isEmpty()
+                    && op.hasReachedTheTable(olapTable));

Review Comment:
   Fixed in d39e12d51aa. The reached check is read under the table's read lock 
now, in one place (`Alter#haveReachedTheTable`), so a column map being rebuilt 
by another statement's light change cannot be read mid rebuild; the analysis 
and the journal waits stay outside the lock, as you say.
   



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